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Using Discussion Lists Effectively

On this page you will find suggestions about taking advantage of a widely-used scholarly institution, the Internet discussion list. The page is prepared and maintained by Dr. J. B. Owens, Professor of History, Idaho State University. Comments and questions will be appreciated: owenjack@isu.edu

First a Story

I picked this up on the tube one night while doing the dishes. As I recall, the program was part of a series called "The Red Bomb." A more precise reference? Hey, I was doing the dishes and didn't know I was going to learn about something useful.

When J. Robert Oppenheimer was setting up the huge atomic bomb development program in the New Mexico desert during World War II, he and the high-ranking military officer in charge of project security found their organizational views were in conflict. The military guy wanted each of the 300 or so scientists involved to work in his or her own cubicle with careful control maintained over all communications. Oppenheimer bluntly told him that if work were organized in that way, there would be no bomb. Scientists, he gently explained, needed frequent interaction with each other in order to develop their ideas and research. Oppenheimer got his easy and free verbal and written exchange among the scientists, the U.S. got the bomb, and security was terrible.

All scholars need that sort of frequent interaction with each other to generate and refine ideas and to explore the possibilities of different types of research. This felt need is what generates such excitement at a properly-run academic conference: participants are getting something for which they are often starved, particularly if they don't work at some large research institute (few of those in the Humanities and Social Sciences) or in a large urban center with active research seminars such as those at Columbia and the University of Pennsylvania (citing those with which I had personal contact).

The Internet makes it possible for all of us to get the necessary frequent interaction. Indeed, it is better than anything in the past because larger groups and individuals at diverse sites can be involved, and it is much easier to interchange papers and data. Several of the items on my page Scholarly Links of Interest will direct you toward those in History and other fields. But to get the best personal results from your participation in such electronic forums, it helps to learn certain conventions, to which I turn.

Moderated Lists

A list moderator reviews all messages sent to the list BEFORE POSTING to make sure that the form and content are appropriate. As cases of improper Internet use increase, moderators will become increasingly necessary, especially for lists with open subscription and large membership. On unmoderated lists, if unproductive and irrelevant "noise" becomes irritating, the list "owner" (as they are known) SHOULD discuss the matter with the problem's source, and if the noise continues, drop the culprit from the list. But this doesn't always happen.

Threads

The use of subject headings is an important part of this discussion list business. When you post queries or comments to our class list, try to give the message a subject title that will tell other list members what your message is about. Short titles are best. Then, when someone replies to a query or comment, the same subject heading should be used. Using the common subject heading for all related messages will create a THREAD (to use electronic discussion list jargon).

If you are commenting on something raised within a particular thread but with a substantial change in direction, change your subject title. Some may wish to continue with the original thread while others will be discussing your topic. By establishing different threads, we can follow multiple discussions at the same time without confusion. When you are a member of a very active discussion list with lots of members and lots of threads developing at the same time, you will appreciate the convention because it will allow you to read related messages (or delete them if the thread doesn't interest you) as a group.

How to reply to an earlier message

Because not everyone on the list will remember an earlier message to which you want to post a response, you need to organize your message to include everyone. The way to do that is to start your message as follows:

If in quoting a section that interests you, you have deleted much of the original text, it is a good idea to indicate that as follows:

If you are going to insert your comments and questions in spaces between sections of the original message, it is a good idea to indicate that as follows:

When you post a message

Try to be brief. Write what you want but know what you are talking about. Keep to the point.

Courteous Behavior

ATT has recently banned its operators from saying "Please" because it takes too long. It seems a shame to have to include a section about being courteous, but these are tough times. In short, say "Please" or something similar when you are asking for something (help, information, clarification), and say "Thank You" when you have received something. Which brings me to...

Reinforcement

It often takes guts to post a question or comment to the electronic void. Lists become more active when such courage is reinforced and participants become more friendly. In your responses try to say stuff like: "I want to respond to A.'s terrific question." or "A.'s tentative hypothesis really helped me clarify how I want to deal with this problem." Lists become more active, and therefore more useful, when members feel their efforts are appreciated, their questions will generate discussion, and their comments will get a fair if critical reading.

Citation

Some class members will want to cite, in examination essays and the project paper, material from electronic messages. Although there is no generally-accepted citation form for electronic messages, there are some obvious considerations. First, you may have a number of these by the same person, often from the same year and day, in your bibliography. Second, you may have two or more messages by the same person on the same subject (thread, see above). Third, often the messages are little more than conversation, which means that matters of fact are not as well substantiated as they would be in a scholarly book or an article in a professional journal; in other words, you should try to verify facts from published sources (which may be on-line ones), just as you would do if someone told you something. As samples of bibliographic entries for discussion list messages, I have included items under my name in the bibliographic examples of the Course Style Sheet.

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Revised: 21 August 2001

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