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Parking Board Minutes and Agendas - 1998

Agenda

Parking Board Meeting
Wednesday, January 14, 1998 @ 3:00 p.m.
Public Safety Conference Room

New Business

I. Regulation of Bicycles On Campus

II. Providing Written Notice of Certain Parking Regs & Policies

III. Residence Reserved Spaces As Tow Away Zones

IV. Refund Policy

V. Budget

Parking Board Meeting

Wednesday, January 14, 1998

Members Present at the Meeting

David Goddard, Chairman & Academic Student Member Lin Sherman, Academic Faculty Member Deborah Pein, Applied Tech Faculty Member Nora Gotfredson, COPE Member

Non-Members Present at Meeting

Stephen Chatterton, Director Public Safety, Ex-Officio Member Terrilee Hancock, Parking/Security Supervisor, Ex-Officio Member Shane Ostermeier, ASISU President, Ex-Officio Member Carol Prescott, Public Safety, Secretary Mark Knight, Student

The meeting was called to order at 3:00 p.m.

Old Business

There was no old business to be discussed.

New Business

I. Residence Reserved Spaces As Tow Away Zones

Mark Knight, a Pulling Court resident, had come to the meeting to speak on this issue. Therefore, it was moved to Item I on the agenda. Each resident of Pulling Courts is assigned a space in Pulling Courts, and parking is very limited. Because of construction of the new LDS Institute, their overflow parking is gone, and there is no visitor parking for friends or relatives of the Pulling Courts residents. They have been given permission to park at the yellow curbs in their lots. There have been times when Mr. Knight goes away for the weekend and comes back late on Sunday night. Invariably, someone is parked in his space, and since there are no other parking spaces available for him, he ends up parking illegally himself. When Mr. Knight calls Public Safety, the only thing our officers can do is cite the car in his space. Mr. Knight feels a $10.00 ticket is not going to deter violators. Mr. Knight has actually been called out of his own apartment to come and move his car, because he is parked illegally, and could not find a proper place to park. Mr. Knight said there is a sign coming into the lot that states any vehicle that does not have a Pulling Courts sticker will be towed away. However, there is no power to back that up. If they have a sticker, it can be fixed. Either the apartment manager will know who it is, or they can call Public Safety, and they can track the owner down in the apartments. If there is no sticker on the vehicle, then nothing gets done.

Mr. Knights point is there are signs stating these vehicles will be towed, but the action is not there. Terrilee Hancock, stated there is a tow policy, but it’s not a tow-away zone policy. The policy is you will be towed if you have $50.00 or more in citations. Ms. Hancock explained that what Mr. Knight is asking for is to have the resident housing lots with assigned spaces have a tow-away zone, so that if someone parks in his space, and he calls down, Public Safety then has the authority to tow these vehicles.

Mr. Chatterton explained they will reconfigure Pulling Courts and create approximately 12 new spaces this summer. He also explained that the Institute Lot will be general parking, and will be an overflow lot for Pulling Courts residents.

Mr. Goddard said he understood the problem at Pulling Courts, but wanted to know what was happening at Ridge Crest. Steve Chatterton stated they had no visitor parking, they had parking only for residents. So the basic problem was friends or relatives not having a place to park, and taking resident spaces away. Students do take spaces in Pulling Courts, because of the vicinity to Applied Tech, but you don’t see this problem at Ridge Crest or Schubert Heights.

Dr. Sherman wanted to know if there would be a problem with having a strict tow policy in those areas. Mr. Chatterton said there could be a bit of a problem, and they would have to weigh the issues. One concern would be that a resident’s relatives come in to visit, and something doesn’t get taken care or there’s a lack of communication somewhere, and they get their car towed. Mr. Knight stated that Chris Heyer did send out memos to all residents that they should not let relatives park in Pulling Courts, and this did work for a while. Mr. Knight thought maybe that would be a way to communicate the new policy, as long as everyone was informed.

Dr. Sherman suggested that maybe with the 12 new spaces, they could have special passes made for visitors and relatives. Whenever a resident had visitors, and needed a pass they would ask the apartment manager for this pass. Mr. Chatterton stated this was up to the apartment manager.

Each apartment has one assigned space. Mr. Knight felt the sign should maybe be bigger and new and say “you WILL be towed.”

David Goddard felt there was now a 2nd issue that has come up, and that is that we somehow compensate for visitor parking in those areas, especially for Ridge Crest. Ms. Hancock stated they do have two spaces per apartment and some parking on Bartz Way. Mr. Chatterton said he understood that Ron Peterson may be enlarging the lot at Ridge Crest to allow for visitor parking.

Matt Christiansen made the motion that the Parking Advisory Board institute a tow policy for housing lots where spaces are assigned. Dr. Sherman 2nded the motion. Motion carried. This tow policy will become effective upon President Bowen’s approval.

II. Regulaton of Bicycles On Campus

Mr. Chatterton stated the Facilities Access Committee struggled with the issue of bicycles parking on campus that block accessability ramps, that park their bikes on handrails, or secure them to doorways and block entrances. The Committee was struggling with a way to deal with this, but had not been successful. The Facilities Accessability Committee felt the Parking Advisory Board should regulate bicycles on campus. Public Safety has not done this in the past, so we don’t have any University regulations that allow us to write parking tickets for bicycles. The Committee felt we should be doing something with bikes on campus, to regulate their usage. If Public Safety is going to do this, it should be a part of the parking regulations. Right now it’s more a safety issue than a parking issue, but should be regulated by Public Safety.

Some Board Members were worried that we would have to hire more personnel, and the signage would get outrageous. Mr. Chatterton said we could do the signage without Parking Board approval, but that was not how he wanted to handle it. Next year we will have more bike racks, and storage lockers due to a $60,000.00 grant. This may help, but we also need to educate people as to where they can park their bikes.

Mr. Chatterton stated there were a couple of issues here. If we are going to regulate bicycles, we need to have it codified in some way in campus regulations to allow us to do that. So if someone decides their going to secure their bike to the steps of some building, we can go and cut the bike off and haul it down to the Public Safety Office, and store it. Then when they come down to get the bike, we give them a ticket.

Mr. Chatterton stated there are state regulations that now exist which say you cannot secure your bike to a handrail, or near disabled space. But we have nothing on campus that states that. He felt it needed to be part of the campus regulations, to more effectively enforce it. We could even assess a penalty if the Board so decided. We would even publish the information in the Student and Faculty/Staff Handbooks.

There would be no need to hire extra personnel. The normal ticket writer or security officer on patrol would be able to handle it.

David Goddard wanted to know what the Facilities Access Committee’s impetus was for doing this. Steve stated Mr. Bob Campbell (Director, Students with Disabilities & Access Committee) had several complaints concerning this issue, particularly at the BA Bldg. We tried writing warning tickets and hanging them on their bikes. This did not have any affect. The next option would be signs; signs are ugly and some people don’t obey the signs.

Motion made by Deborah Pein that the Parking Board will accept the responsibility of establishing rules and regulations to regulate bicycles on campus, 2nd by Matt Christiansen, Motion carried.

III. Providing Written Notification Of Certain Parking Regulations & Policies

Deborah Pein stated the Faculty/Staff Appeals Committee would like to recommend that ISU Public Safety provide written notification to faculty and staff, and also to students, through ISU publications, such as the Bengal, News & Notes. You could also give out some kind of written notification to faculty/staff & students when they purchase a permit, that only one hangtag warning per semester is allowed, and records of all parking violations are maintained for a period of five years, and that this information is taken into consideration when making decisions related to parking appeals. Because of a recent faculty member’s appeal, the Appeal Committee found that some faculty/staff and students may not realize they get one hang tag warning per semester, and that some may not realize their tickets are kept on record for at least five years. Therefore, it may be a good idea to hand this information out, update this information each semester, etc. Ms. Pein did not want to implement anything new, she just felt maybe we needed to advertise these issues a bit more. The Board gave its OK to give notification each semester of the one hang tag warning per semester and the fact that you have a citation record on file with Public Safety for five years. It will also be advertised in as many publications as we can possibly find (i.e., Bengal, News & Notes, Web Page, Faculty/Staff & Student Handbooks, etc.).

IV. Refund Policy

Carol Prescott explained that the refund policy for permits is that they will be prorated, but then there is a regulation that says you cannot get a refund on year permits in the spring & summer sessions. We wanted to take out the no refund portion, and prorate all permits. The Parking Advisory Board gave their approval.

V. Budget

Mr. Chatterton explained that we normally don’t involve the Parking Advisory Board in the use of Parking Budget funds. So we’ve had very little occasion to discuss things that we do, and for the most part we run the Parking Budget according to the needs that we see are important. When we have wanted to remodel this building, we’ve done it many times.

Mr. Chatterton explained that we have a crisis in our department of space. We are really cramped, and want to do something about it. It has become a very serious problem. We have discussed several things, and come up with several different ideas to accommodate what our needs are. We’re expanding the things that we do in our department, and taking on additional responsibilities. Right now, as a result of the death of the students at American Falls, we have asked for a communications system. We are going to need three more security officers. Darrell Buffaloe is going to help with that, as soon as he comes up with the money. We really don’t have the room, and are looking to remodel downstairs. The estimated cost is anywhere from $18,000.00 to $23,000.00 to come down here a reconfigure the internal stuff. However, we’ve come up with another idea. We had the architects look at things, and one of the things they did was reconfigure for downstairs and upstairs to give us more room. So we would expand in the back. All we are talking about is an addition that is 12 feet wide and 36 feet long. That would give us two offices and an enlarged squad room. There is enough room out back, and we would still have our parking. We could do this for $20,000.00. This is just adding on, and not doing anything downstairs. Because we are adding onto the back, rather than remodeling, Darrell Buffaloe felt we should bring that to the Parking Advisory Board, and have your concurrence on that, or at least a discussion on whether that is a reasonable expenditure of Parking funds.

Mr. Chatterton explained that over the years we’ve tried to spend about $60,000.00 a year to upgrade parking lots. Last year we were able to get the state Public Works to fund redoing W Lot. We found we only needed to put down 1 inch of asphalt instead of two, and spent the money that we saved on lights so we could light that whole parking lot. Two years from now, we’ll be able to do the same thing somewhere else on campus. What that means is, it costs about $20,000.00 to resurface a lot. We’ve got most of the parking lots up very close. It would mean that we would probably not resurface a parking lot next year. This is where the money would come from. We prefer to expand, and keep the squad room upstairs and maintain better contact with our dispatch. We would create two offices and a squad room. We are not looking to increase permit prices. We would just not resurface one parking lot.

It was stated that most of the lots are in really good shape, and we’ve really kept up on them. They had talked of moving us, or giving us this whole building, but that will not be happening anytime soon. This building will not be torn down. Mr. Chatterton stated the only two lots that really needed to be done were H2/H3, the visitor lots by the Education Building. We also have O lot and Pulling Courts, Schubert Heights and C lots that need to be done. But O Lot will probably be done as one main project with Public Works. We will do Pulling Courts. But again, it is a small lot. We should have about $40,000.00 in our budget, and we should be able to do at least two lots next year. Steve doesn’t see us moving, as this is an ideal location, and with the drive up window, it’s a real advantage for us, especially with students needing certain services after hours.

The Parking Advisory Board gave its approval.

Nora Gotfredson introduced herself at the new COPE Board Member.

VI. Changing Date Board Meets.

Dr. Sherman wanted to know if we could start meeting on the 2nd Wednesday of each month, instead of the first Wednesday. Dr. Sherman is the alternate for the Graduate Counsel which meets every other week. There were no objections to this change for the rest of this year. With the exception of March, because of spring break. So we will meet February 11.

The meeting was adjourned at 4:30 p.m.

Agenda

Parking Board Meeting
Wednesday, February 11, 1998 @ 3:00 p.m.
Public Safety Conference Room

Old Business

I. Regulationg of Bicycles On Campus

II. Providing Written Notice of Certain Parking Regs & Policies

III. Residence Reserved Spaces As Tow Away Zones

IV. Refund Policy

V. Budget

New Business

No New Business was submitted at the time this Agenda was completed.

Parking Board Meeting

Wednesday, February 11,1998

Members Present at the Meeting

David Goddard, Chairman & Academic Student Member
Jeffrey Wells, Academic Student Member
Matt Christiansen, Graduate Student Member
Nora Gotfredson, COPE Member
Betty Peterson, CEC Member
Deborah Pein, Applied Tech Faculty Member

Non-Members Present at Meeting

Stephen Chatterton, Director Public Safety
Terrilee Hancock, Parking/Security Supervisor
Carol Prescott, Public Safety (taking minutes)
Monica Johansen, Turner Hall Resident & Student

The meeting was called to order at 3:15 p.m.

Old Business

I. Regulation of Bicycles On Campus

Steve Chatterton updated the Board on this subject. The Safety Committee met yesterday, and several members of that committee expressed some concerns with bicycles on campus, particularly the speed with which they traveled on campus, and their failure to alert people when they come speeding by. Steve explained to them that the Parking Board had passed a resolution and it was sent on to Darrell and the President, recommending the Parking Board begin to regulate bicycles on campus. The Safety Committee moved to support the Parking Board.

David wanted to know if the Safety Committee had made in suggestions, such as bike paths. That issue was not discussed. Jeffrey Wells wanted to know if part of the policy was to register your bike on campus. Steve said no. We do encourage people to register their bikes, but there is no requirement. It is possible we could require registration of bikes, if the Parking Board approves it. The members of the Parking Board were given a copy of Public Safety’s “Bicycles and Human-Powered Vehicles Policy.” It does state in this policy that all bicycles and other human-powered vehicles give an audible signal before passing a pedestrian.

We have not targeted bicyclists with this policy, but we have roller-bladers and skateboarders. Dave Goddard suggested we put this policy on the web page, and instead of handing this pink form out, refer them to the web page. Stephen stated the policy basically lets them control skateboarding & rollerblading, but we do not cite these people. We can take them through the court system if they fail to comply, but we do not give out citations. The officers can usually catch up with them with on bicycles.

David Goddard stated this issue was brought up because people were chaining their bikes to hand rails. This was designed to put an end to that. He was wondering how far we really want to go with this. There is a question of man power, is this something we should be devoting campus safety man power toward? He understood it was a legitimate concern of the Safety Committee, but he wondered if we go into the regulation of human powered vehicles, if that’s going to far.

Stephen said he didn’t see that we had a problem with bicycles, other chaining them to hand rails. But the regulation provides the Parking Board the flexibility if they see a problem to begin to address it. We didn’t include skate boards and what not in the original bicycle regulation, and Steve wasn’t sure we really needed to at this time. We can later on down the road if needed.

II Providing Written Notice of Certain Parking Regulations & Policies

Deborah Pein reiterated the Board’s recommendation that the Parking Office provide written notification, and she felt one of the best ways was some kind of pamphlet handed out when the permits are issued. Carol Prescott said we were also going to put this on the back of the permits.

III Residence Reserved Spaces As Tow-Away Zones

This policy will be extended to all Housing units with reserved spaces. This proposal has gone to President Bowen’s Office for approval. Every effort will be made to contact the owner of the vehicle, before it gets towed. There are some visitor spaces at Ridge Crest, and you can request a Guest Pass for visitors from the Parking Office.

IV Refund Policy

The refund policy for parking permits has been implemented.

V Budget

This has been sent to President Bowen’s office for approval.

New Business

I J Lot Parking

Betty Peterson presented a letter from one of the members of CEC regarding the parking in J Lot. Basically the person who wrote the letter said he had done a random check of the lot. He wanted to determine how many cars had day passes, official passes, volunteer passes, guest passes, and those containing no passes. He also stated that the lot was oversold by 8 passes. He asked that the Parking Board make some effort to alleviate the problem that the paid sticker patrons face in J Lot.

The problems with J Lot are many. There are many functions held there, including the Bengal Foundation Luncheon every Monday. Students park at the meters, which are for visitors. Ms. Peterson said the writer’s biggest complaint was the day passes. Why were there so many day passes given out for that lot. Stephen explained that most of the day passes that are issued up there come from the Applied Tech offices. Stephen felt this issue should not be handled by the Parking Office. We recognize there is a problem in J Lot. However, he felt it should be given back to the administration in Vo-Tech (Dean’s Office). Our option would be to cut the number of permits we issue to faculty/staff in J Lot, or Vo-Tech would have to stop giving out so many day passes. Betty Peterson said she would have this gentleman take it to the Dean’s Office. David Goddard stated she might also want to pass on that being in the geographical location they are in, Holt Arena actually does become a viable option for some of that stuff.

Stephen also stated they have looked at the lot, and there are some things they can do this summer to squeeze a few more parking spaces out of it.

II Official Business Passes

Stephen stated we were experiencing some problems with Official Business Passes. There appears to be some significant abuses of the Official Business Passes and the guest pass. We are auditing that at this time. We may have a report for the Parking Board next time it meets, and maybe then we can discuss some issues on how to overcome the problem of misuse of these passes. This is a campus wide problem.

III Garrison Turner Resident Parking

David Goddard introduced Monica Johansen, who lives in Turner Hall. She came to address the problem of parking in the Garrison Turner lots. She felt these lots were oversold. She works off campus, and lives in the dorms, and feels they should be guaranteed so many parking spaces for however many students buy permits. When she works off campus, and then comes back for classes, she can’t find anywhere in the Garrison Turner lot, and W Lot to park. It is usually full during the day. She said she had to go park on Benton Street and walk to her class. Then she would have to go pick up her car. She felt there should be special consideration for people who live in the dorms, because that is where they reside, and it’s their home. They should not have to be afraid when they walk home in the dark, if they have to park somewhere else. During the day is when it is hardest to find a parking space in Garrison Turner.

It was explained to her that there is also parking for dorm residents in Holt Arena. She was not aware that this was available to her. She was also told she can call Public Safety for an escort, before she leaves work, and they will give her an escort to Garrison Turner. This is available anytime and at all times. Stephen also mentioned she could use the emergency phones to call for an escort.

Stephen indicated that 30 new spaces were created in Garrison Turner, and she stated this was appreciated, but it wasn’t enough. Steve said the other suggestion we had made, that nobody liked, was that Housing hold a lottery for these parking spaces, so that anyone who lives in Garrison Turner knows they will have a spot. The rest of them would have to take potluck someplace else.

Steve said he did not know how to create enough parking at Garrison Turner for everybody that parks there. He further stated that Housing pays for the permit, and Garrison Turner is allowed only one vehicle. David Goddard noted that the problem we face is that we have more rooms in the complex than we have spaces. David wanted to know what the practice was for selling general permits. Stephen stated we have never oversold our general permits on campus, because we have plenty of parking in Holt Arena. Steve said she can also catch the bus down to lower campus for classes. David asked Monica if she had any suggestions for parking at Garrison Turner herself, since she had been living there for awhile.

Monica said maybe we could designate some spaces in W Lot for Garrison Turner residents only, maybe just the first two rows. Steve said he was more than willing to do that, if Housing was willing to pay $40.00 a space for those spots over there. Housing is paying $10.00 a space at this time. Steve explained the problem was that W Lot was a General Lot which is used by the College of Education, and they really stuff that lot to go to classes.

Monica said she still felt she should be able to park where she lives, especially when you have groceries or laundry to haul around

Deborah Pein suggested maybe Monica should go to Housing as it seems that they have the hold on those spaces. David Goddard did not want to send her to Housing if they will not deal with the issue, he did not want to see Monica get bounced back and forth between Housing and Parking. If we send her to Housing with a legitimate idea, and Housing was willing to financially compensate for some of those spaces, would this be an option?

Steve said Housing wanted spaces for residents, and Education wanted spaces for their students. He felt Parking should not get in the middle of it. He felt it was an administrative thing where someone needs to say this is how we want to do it. However, he would fuss over the loss of the $40.00 because it costs a lot of money to maintain the parking lots. He stated Housing gives us $10.00 a permit, and out of that $10.00 he maintains the parking lots around Housing. All of the $40.00 permit holders subsidize that, because $10.00 isn’t enough to cover the cost of maintaining those lots.

That is not a significant issue, however. The issue is how does the University want to handle the parking. Steve also mentioned that there were some Garrison Turner permit holders who park their vehicles in the first row or so of W Lot, and never move. This is primarily a student issue. Deborah Pein asked why the other resident lots (i.e. McIntosh, Pulling Courts) had designated spaces? Steve explained that these lots have enough parking to allow one car.

David Goddard asked with the loss of Garrison next year, would this become a viable option? Steve said it will only create more problems. It will cause more competition between students, faculty and staff up there.

Steve also suggested Housing could fund a bond to build a parking facility near Garrison, but then they would want to charge for that. David Goddard asked what if there was a policy that allowed only upper classmen to have vehicles on campus, would it solve the problem, and would it be a good policy? Terrilee said there are some campuses that do that. Steve said it had been suggested at one time, that sophomores be allowed to park at Holt Arena only. This idea was rejected.

Monica agreed maybe is should be Housing who addressed this issue, but she really felt the parking should be designated with guaranteed spots for student who have vehicles in the resident halls. Jeffrey Wells suggested we give Seniors first preference, Juniors have second, etc. and then if your left without a spot that’s within the area designated for that hall, they would have to park over at Holt Arena. David wondered how you would regulate that.

Stephen said this was a big issue, and probably would not be solved in this one meeting, but he felt it was primarily a student issue, to be handled along with Housing. David Goddard said if we can get that information to her, she can then go to Housing, and he can do some other things outside of the Parking Board. Then maybe come back to the Board at a time when Housing has said let’s see if they’ll go for this. Stephen mentioned this would be an even bigger issue when Garrison becomes administrative. David thought maybe it would be beneficial for Housing to have a policy on parking before that happens. Steve said this would be a big issue by next fall for faculty/staff who would want H Lot expanded for them.

David Goddard told Monica she should go to Housing to see what they were willing to do to guarantee or to help guarantee permit holders spaces, and what they are willing to do with the Parking Office. He said ASISU would be willing to help her also. Once something is correlated then she can bring it back to the Parking Board. Stephen said she should talk to Ron Peterson, and Steve would also call him. Steve also suggested maybe someone could speak to Jan Anderson, on the student side. Stephen noted whatever we did would impact the students going to classes on that part of the campus.

Steve said he would also have Scott Campbell look at that area up there, and maybe come up with some other area to designate for a parking area.

The meeting was then adjourned.

Agenda

Parking Board Meeting
Wednesday, March 18, 1998 @ 3:00 p.m.
Public Safety Conference Room

Old Business

I. Official Business Passes

II. Garrison Turner Resident Parking

New Business

No New Business was submitted at the time this Agenda was completed.

Parking Board Meeting

Wednesday, March 18, 1998

Members Present at the Meeting

Deborah Pein, Applied Tech Faculty Member
Nora Gotfredson, COPE Representative

Non-Members Present at Meeting

Stephen Chatterton, Director Public Safety
Terrilee Hancock, Parking/Security Supervisor
Carol Prescott, Public Safety (taking minutes)

The meeting was called to order at 3:15 p.m.

We only had two members show up.

Steve Chatterton did discuss reserve parking at the Redhill Building. This issue will be added to the agenda for the next meeting. The Board previously voted to make the parking garage area at the Redhill Building a reserve lot. However, this area has been turned into a restricted lot for Telecommunications official vehicles only. Steve would like to propose the other small lot by the Redhill Building as the reserve lot. It has approximately 14 spaces.

Mr. Chatterton would like to have further discussion on this issue at the next meeting.

Agenda

Parking Board Meeting
Wednesday, April 8, 1998 @ 3:00 p.m.
Public Safety Conference Room

Old Business

I. Official Business Passes

II. Garrison Turner Resident Parking

New Business

I. Reserve Parking at Redhill Bldg.

II. Notice to Depts. Re: Reserve Parking Permits - Purchasing for New Hires

III. Concerns Regarding Change In Expiration Date of Permits

Parking Board Meeting

Wednesday, April 8, 1998

Members Present at the Meeting

David Goddard, Academic Student Member & Parking Board Chairman
Jeffrey Wells, Academic Student Member
Matt Christiansen, Graduate Student Member
Dr. Alvin Sherman, Academic Faculty Member
Cheryl Lyda for Deb Pein, Applied Tech Faculty Member
Betty Peterson, CEC Member
Jeff Evans, New CEC Member

Non-Members Present at Meeting

Stephen Chatterton, Director Public Safety
Terrilee Hancock, Parking/Security Supervisor
Linda Tobias, Public Safety
Carol Prescott, Public Safety (taking minutes)

The meeting was called to order at 3:15 p.m.

Old Business

I. Official Business Passes - Steve stated we were still working on gathering some information on this issue, and would discuss it at the next meeting.

II. Garrison Turner Resident Parking - David stated he had not heard anything further from Monica Johansen. David said he would make a note to ask Monica about this issue. Steve stated he was having Scott Campbell look at the Garrison Turner Lot, but he didn’t think there was too much you could. We might be able to increase by a few spaces. Steve was not sure that would be done this summer, because of budget constraints.

New Business

I. Reserve Parking at Redhill Bldg.

Steven stated that at a previous meeting the Board had approved making the underground garage reserve parking for the PA Program. It was then decided that Telecommunications would also move to that building, and they were given the underground covered parking for their ISU official vehicles. So Telecommunications and the PA Program are asking for 7 spaces in the small lot by the Redhill Bldg. We have 1 disabled space and 2 official vehicle parking spaces in there. There are 13 spaces left at this time. The PA Program wants 1 space, Telecommunications wants 6. There was some concern with sharing that lot as general and reserve. However, we do this with I Lot, where each I lot space is marked with a sign. Telecom & PA do not want to take the whole lot, just 7 spaces (a sign in front of each space). There was some concern with Nichols Hall residents parking there, but most of that would just be overnight use.

Jeff Evans made the motion to make 7 spaces reserved in the lot at Redhill. Motion was seconded by Dr. Sherman. Motion carried.

II Notice To Departments Concerning Reserve Parking Permits - Purchasing For New Hires

Dr. Sherman brought this issue to the Board. Because of the change to May 1st for selling reserve permits, there is a concern regarding new hires who get here in July, and may not be able to get a permit. What they would like to see happen is that each department will send Public Safety notification of new hires, and then Public Safety will send out information for necessary parking, so they don’t have to wait until July. The Parking Office agreed to go ahead and do this. No vote was needed.

III Concerns Regarding Change In Expiration Date Of Permits

The Public Safety Office brought a Parking Permit Information Sheet with 3 separate suggestions on the change in expiration dates. Suggestion #1 - No change from recommendation of Parking Board for this year (May to May expiration date). Suggestion #2 - Go back to last year’s method, sell in May run August to August. Suggestion #3 - Existing permit holders would get a 9-month pro-rated permit. First time permit purchasers would pay full price.

Betty Peterson & Jeff Evans, stated CEC members were really hot over this issue. They brought a petition signed by a little over 100 CEC members asking for the pro-rated permit. Steve stated that pro-rating would be a hassle for the Parking Office, and our office is in the business of getting hassled, we get hassled everyday. But we discussed all of these issues, and we’re willing to discuss them again. Ms. Peterson stated some CEC members felt they should have been notified of this change last year when the Parking Board voted on it. Steve explained that each of the Parking Board representatives went back to their CEC Council, their COPE Council, and to the Faculty Senate, and to the Student Senate. These representatives came back and said all of these entities were agreeable to it. Then the recommendation went to the President’s staff meeting, where the representatives to all of those entities were present. This issue was discussed then and explained what we were going to do and why. Nobody voiced any objection, so it went through. But no we did not notify each employee. David Goddard stated he felt maybe it was the job of the CEC to notify their employees of this decision. Mr. Goddard said they did not notify all of the students regarding this decision either.

Steve said we would do it however the Board decided, and the issue was on the President’s Staff Meeting Agenda for next Monday, and he would like to be able to give them an answer from the Parking Board. Steve said if we do the pro-rated deal, we’ll have to know who had a permit last year and who did not. If they had one last year they would get the pro-rated permit, if not they will have to pay full price. We will have to check every person that comes in, and will we have to do the same thing for the students? Then we would have to do that check with every student. And if the incorrect amount is sent to us in the mail, we will have to contact those people.

David Goddard said the money issue could affect the Parking budget, and he felt most students take in the shorts for 3 months every year. It was stated some faculty/staff do also. David stated this was just a one time deal with the date change. David said there was a lot of effort to make sure everyone had the opportunity to review this. He said he felt the Parking Office bent over backwards to make sure the students had an opportunity to review this thoroughly before they moved forward with it. He questioned all the hassle over a one time thing. Dr. Sherman said most professors couldn’t care less. But some staff made very little money, and this was hard on them.

Dr. Sherman wanted to know why the expiration date had been changed in the first place. Steve explained that last year when faculty/staff bought them in May they wanted to start parking in the lot right then. In the summer time this was no problem. In the fall for 30 days it was a problem, particularly in the smaller lots, with the new permit holders displacing those with permits still good in those lots, or overlapping permits. Steve also stated that there were 160 signatures on the petition, and with the number of reserve lot permits sold, the signatures only represented 3% of faculty/staff. Betty felt it was unfortunate that all the faculty/staff were not notified that this was going to happen. She also felt this was a decision made by more faculty than staff members to change the expiration date. Steve said most were faculty, but there were a few staff.

Jeff Evans & Betty Peterson said staff’s main complaint was they were having to pay for three months twice. Jeff said their complaint was they’ve got the 12 months, and now they’ll be charged for another 12 months, when 3 months have already been paid for, that’s what the petition is about.

Betty Peterson made the motion to go with the pro-rated suggestion. The motion died due to lack of a second. Steve said what he would take to the President’s Staff meeting was that the faculty and student members of the Board were satisfied with last year’s decision. He would also let them know that CEC and some COPE members were very unhappy with that decision.

IV Family Medicine Moving to SE Health District Office

This was not on the agenda, but Steve wanted to let the Parking Board know that Family Medicine would be moving the District Health Office, possibly this summer. At this time, the thought was to make the lot next to the District Health Office a general lot. Steve will keep us updated on this, as things develop.

Meeting was adjourned at 4:30 p.m.

Agenda

Parking Board Meeting
Wednesday, May 6, 1998 @ 3:00 p.m.
Public Safety Conference Room

Old Business

I. Official Business Passes

II. Garrison Turner Resident Parking

III. Reserve Parking Redhill Bldg.

IV. Notice To Depts. Re: Reserve Parking Permits - Purchasing For New Hires

V. Concerns Regarding Change In Expiration Date of Permits

New Business

I. Parking in The North & South Loops at Holt Arena

Parking Board Meeting

Wednesday, May 6, 1998

Members Present at the Meeting

Nora Gotfredson, COPE Member
Jeff Evans, CEC Member
Alvin Sherman, Academic Faculty Member
Deborah Pein, Applied Tech Faculty Member

Non-Members Present at Meeting

Stephen Chatterton, Director Public Safety
Terrilee Hancock, Parking/Security Supervisor
Carol Prescott, Public Safety (taking minutes)

The meeting was called to order at 3:00 p.m.

There were no student members at the last meeting. The members who were there discussed parking in the North & South Loops of Holt Arena.

Apparently there is a discrepancy in parking. People on the North side park where ever they want, and they park without a permit. The South side loop is patrolled more, and parking is more controlled (not as much parking on sidewalks, yellow curbs, etc.).

The north loop is also general parking and in all fairness, anyone who parks there should have a permit, and should not be allowed to park on the sidewalks.

It was decided this issue would be discussed in more detail at the first Parking Board meeting of the new school year.

Agenda

Parking Board Meeting
Wednesday, October 7, 1998 @ 3:00 p.m.
Public Safety Conference Room

Old Business

I Official Business Passes

New Business

I Parking In North & South Loops At Holt Arena

II Increasing number of permits we will oversell in R01 Lot.

III Parking for students living in house near ISU - Linda Mark

Parking Board Meeting

Wednesday, October 7, 1998

Members Present at the Meeting

Alvin Sherman, Academic Faculty Member
Nick Davidson For Deb Pein - Applied Tech Faculty Member
Jeff Evans - CEC Member
Nora Gotfredson - COPE Member
Corey Bishop - Applied Tech Student Member

Non-Members Present at Meeting

Stephen Chatterton, Director Public Safety
Terrilee Hancock, Parking/Security Supervisor
Carol Prescott, Public Safety (taking minutes)
Linda Tobias, Admin. Assistant Public Safety

Linda Mark - Student Visitor

The meeting was called to order at 3:10 p.m.

Deb Pein was elected as the Parking Board Chairperson.

Old Business

I. Official Business Passes

Steve stated last year we reported to the Board that we were having some problems with misuse of the Official Business Passes. At that time we were in the process of identifying which departments we were having the most problems with. We found the College of Education was the primary department that we were having problems with. We identified those who were serious offenders, notified the Dean, and asked the Dean to take measures to correct the problem. So far this year, we haven’t found any major problems.

New Business

I. Parking Board Web Page

Linda Tobias said she’s got one started, and it will be fairly simple. It will have a main title page, a link to the by-laws, a link to the minutes, a link to the various appeals committees, and will also be linked to the upcoming agenda. She asked if anyone had any objections to having there names, and e-mail addresses on this page. The Board Members present were O.K. with this. However, none we keen on the idea of having their pictures linked to the web page.

II Parking in North and South Loops of Holt Arena

Steve stated the notes from the previous Parking Board meeting reflect some of the things that have occured in the past up there. We neglected to inform John Novosel of the meeting, as he wanted to come and talk about this issue.

The personnel at Holt Arena would like to have the north loop be free parking, with no permit required. Many of them also park their vehicles on the sidewalk, and would like to be able to do this. This appears to be one of those things that have been overlooked for a long time. Then our officers started writing tickets over there, and the Holt Arena personnel objected to this, and that some exception had been made for them.

However, the South Loop is not treated the same way. It is a general permit area, and is ticketed on a regular basis. Anyone parked on the sidewalk on the south side is cited. The north loop is also general, with disabled and official vehicle parking. Neither side is marked as general, but the south side gets regulated as general.

Nora Gotfredson wanted to know why both side aren’t treated the same. Terrilee stated that for some reason the ticket writers have always skipped the north side. Until recently. We have had some ticket writers going over there. There is no clear reason why the north side has not been getting cited.

Most members felt it was not fair to let people on the north side park free and they felt parking on the sidewalk was a safety hazard. The Holt Arena personnel could also park in the free area in the northeast corner of Holt. If the want to park in the north loop they should be required to have a general lot permit, to be consistent with the south side. Parking on the sidewalk should be prohibited no matter where your at.

Nora Gotfredson made a motion that the north loop be considered general, and parking and citing on the north side should be consistent with the south side. Jeff Evans seconded the motion. Motion passed. Steve Chatterton said he would inform John Novosel of the decision, and we would invite Mr. Novosel to the next meeting. If he wants to come to the next meeting, we will not start citing the north side until after that meeting.

III Bus Service Near Free Area At Holt

Nora Gotfredson had a faculty member approach her on the issue of bus service at Holt. This faculty member rides the bus from Holt and encourages students to do likewise. This morning they started some construction up by the bench for the bus stop. The bus just drove right on by. People were late for work and classes. She wanted to ask that we give them advance notice when construction is being done, so they know when the bus stop is being moved. Steve apologized, but stated this was a last minute thing, the evening before, and they did not get word to the bus drivers, asking them to pass it on passengers, till that night. They probably were not able to notify all passengers, as it was a last minute thing. There was a sign on the bus stop stating that the bus stop was moved, with an arrow pointing down to the new stop. Steve said he would talk to Ron Bingli about this issue. They will try to give prior notice if possible.

IV Increasing The Number of Permits We Oversell in R01 Lot

Steve Chatterton stated we have oversold R01 lot by the 5% the Parking Board has indicated is allowed. However, we have 9 more people on the waiting for R01 lot. It is a combination of faculty, staff and students. Steve indicated students are allowed equal access to that lot after fee payment. Steve felt it would not be a big problem. We have some faculty, staff and students who complain the lot is half empty all the time. Steve stated that wasn’t exactly true, but it isn’t always full either. It is a balancing act for us to determine what amount we should oversell it. Years ago we settled on the 5%. That has worked fairly well in all of our other lots, but our other lots aren’t as transient as R01 Lot. We increased R01 Lot last year. So we have an additional 16 spaces in that lot. It looks like we could oversell it by more than we have right now.

Steve recommended we go ahead and oversell by 9 more, and see how it works. Dr. Sherman asked if it would be permanent, or if we were just going to see how it works this year. Steve said yes, and that if it worked, we could possibly consider overselling by more than 5% in the future.

Dr. Sherman stated that R01 fluxes so much, that there are times you can’t find a place, even if you do have an R01 sticker. It just depends on the day of week, and the time of day. Terrilee stated a lot of times we’ll cite someone for parking in R01, and they’ll complain because the lot was half empty. Dr. Sherman was concerned about any permanent change in overselling that particular lot. They have so many people from different buildings parking there. They get B.A. Pharmacy, Liberal Arts, Physical Science, Admin. etc. We need to be aware of their needs too, because that’s a vast number of people who are utilizing that lot. Dr. Sherman said most of these people are given plenty of notice to buy a permit. Steve stated however, that some are new people, some are not. The people who have had them before, and have never had problems getting one, may wait until it’s too late. Dr. Sherman felt that showed a lack of responsibility, because we do notify them. Steve stated that some of them are probably getting displaced by new faculty, staff members who buy their permits as soon as they know they are hired.

Dr. Sherman said if there were legitimate reasons for overselling, like new hires who were hired late, and didn’t get that option. But just for convenience sake, no. No one wanted to make a motion, and there seemed to be no interest in overselling this lot further, so this item died.

V Ninth St. Resident Parking

Linda Mark came to address the Parking Board regarding parking for residents of 805-809 S. 9th. There are several people who live at this private residence, across from the Oboler Library, and it is surrounded by campus property. She stated that over the past couple of years parking has gotten increasingly bad. They can never find on-street parking near the house. Five of the occupants have bought general permits, but they are not always able to find a space in the general lots near their house. So they end up parking about five blocks from the house. There is no parking behind the house. There are two on-street parking spaces in front of the house, but they get taken by Library patrons, or Physical Science patrons, the LDS Institute, etc. General parking near the house has decreased in the past two years, plus there’s been a higher demand for parking in that area. They do not have resident permit parking. The landlord had contacted the local borough about setting this up. However, the way that is done is that everyone on the block has to vote on it, and be in agreement with designating as resident permit. Ms. Mark felt since they were the only residence, and the surrounding property is ISU or the Community Bible Church, she is convinced they would be out voted. There is some parking on Lovejoy, but that was decreased due to a yellow curb being painted. This was to give the bus more room to make the corner.

Nick Davidson stated since they were city streets wasn’t this a city problem, not an ISU problem? Ms. Mark stated yes, in terms of on street parking, that would be up to the city. That’s their number 1 complaint, normally you have a chance of getting on-street parking by your house, but they don’t have that chance. At first Ms. Mark did not want to have to spend the money for a permit. This year she and several other resident’s bought permits. But they are now finding that most of the general lots in that area are full. Mr. Davidson asked what she would like to do to solve this problem? Ms. Mark said she had a few ideas. The first one would be the two parking spaces in front of the house, if they could somehow be designated as ours, similar to the way there are two spaces designated in front of the Credit Union. Another idea would be to have the whole block designated as resident permit parking only, which is something the borough would have to do, but she felt they need University support to do this. The third idea she had was to perhaps designate a few spaces in one of the general lots near the house.

Steve stated the city is the one that controls the streets. So whether the designate two spaces, or a whole block has to be done according their regulations. Their regulations are that all of the entities have to help. If your landlord’s willing to do, if the University’s willing to do, then this Board would make a recommendation to Darrell, and Darrell would consider it, and so forth. Then maybe the could designate the whole block as permit parking. Steve felt designating spaces in the lots, would become a little delicate, because yes you’re a student, but all of those apartments could be rented to non-students at some time. He felt it was a landlord issue, and not a University issue. Would the landlord pay for those spaces? Ms. Mark stated the people living there would be willing to pay for the permits, or spaces. But then it becomes a reserve space.

Mr. Davidson said that if the landlord was willing to set up city resident parking, that would be the best way to to. Mr. Chatterton stated the University and the Church would also have to be willing to do it. Ms. Mark has one out of the three entities. She is here to ask that the Board make that recommendation to Darrell. Dr. Sherman stated he was reluctant to designate the whole block, because we do have people from the community needing parking. Miss Hancock stated that because of their special circumstances, they city may make some type of special concession, and just designate at least four spaces for that residence, two on nine, two on Lovejoy. Mr. Chatterton said he was willing to contact the city to see what he could find out. Mr. Evans stated he was willing to go along with the four spaces, as long as the city agreed.

Mr. Chatterton stated we would check into it, and come back with more information at the next Parking Board meeting.

Meeting was adjourned.

Agenda

Parking Board Meeting
Wednesday, November 4, 1998 @ 3:00 p.m.
Public Safety Conference Room

Old Business

I. Parking In North & South Loops at Holt Arena

II. Overselling R01 by 9% died in committee - no further discussion needed

III. Parking For Residents in House On South 9th St.

New Business

I. New Speed Limit On Bartz Way

II. Marking R02 Meters Visitor Meters Only

Parking Board Meeting

Wednesday, November 4, 1998

Members Present at the Meeting

Deb Pein, Chairperson & Applied Tech
Nora Gotfredson, COPE Member
Jeff Evans, CEC Member
Missy McElprang, ASISU Vice-President & Academic Student Member

Non-Members Present at Meeting

Stephen Chatterton, Director Public Safety
Terrilee Hancock, Parking/Security Supervisor
Carol Prescott, Public Safety (taking minutes)
Joff Stone, Student
Wayne Ellis, Student
Brian Wixom, Student
John Novosel, Staff Holt Arena

The meeting was called to order at 3:10 p.m. Minutes were approved.

Old Business

I. Parking For Residents in House on S. 9th.

Steve stated the city, for whatever reason granted her request. They designated 2 parking spaces. However, now the residents are fighting over those 2 spaces (he has 6 residents living there). Steve is negotiating with the owner to allow him access through our parking lots, to the back of his building, and he would create parking for all 6 them, in exchange for not making those 2 street parking spaces resident parking. Steve is supposed to meet with him shortly to discuss this issue. Steve will give us an update on this issue at the next meeting.

II. Parking in North & South Loops at Holt Arena

Steve Chatterton stated last week the Board had voted to make all parking around Holt Arena uniform, which would impact John Novosel’s people. John came to speak on this issue.

John asked that the Board consider the large amount of visitors that come up to Holt. They could be people who buy tickets, people that come for meetings, very influential people. He stated some of these people donate thousands of dollars a year to the University. Not all of them are athletic scholarships, some are academic.

United Dairymen of Idaho have weekly meetings to discuss and plan the Dairy Bowl. These people will come in and grab the first space that’s available. If there’s a space that’s not marked yellow in the loop, they are liable to park there. Also, because of the amount of visitor business we do in relationship to the ticket office and Bengal Foundation, in general, he would ask that to be a consideration. John felt making the North Loop General, could be a financial impact to the University, if we ticket the wrong people.

John says he knows there have been some employees who park in the wrong places, and as far as he was concerned, those people should be cited. If they are parking on the sidewalk, or where they shouldn’t be, they should face the consequences. He stated there are some employees that park in the loop, he being one of them. He will park in the service area, because he uses his car 12 months a year. He does not have a pass but he does have a service pass. Mr. Novosel stated he’d be happy to buy a $40 pass, but it won’t always be applicable when he needs to got to Administration to drop off a payment, or when he needs to meet with President Bowen or Dr. Pearce. He’s usually in within 5 minutes. Mr. Chatterton stated John was talking about the Official Business Pass. John stated he used that, and he tries not to take up the Official Pass Area, but he can do that, when he needs to get in and out. He goes to lower campus 3 or 4 times a day He stated he’s always used his vehicle, and he figured that’s kind of a trade off. He uses the OFB Pass because it’s convenient for me, and he doesn’t turn in mileage. He wasn’t sure if that was the right way to do it or not.

In talking to the employees, if that were to become a pass only area, they would just move over to the free area at Holt Arena. However, if we open it up to General, some of the wrong people may end up getting ticketed.

Nora Gotfredson stated our concern was that every other staff and faculty on campus has to purchase a permit for parking. On the north loop it was free for some reason. Either leave it for visitors or make it a general lot.

John stated there are advantages and disadvantages to working on the North side of Holt Arena. The disadvantages are the hours you work (late hours). The advantages are you’re close to a free area. Nora stated they aren’t ticketed after 4:00 p.m. anyway. John stated quite often they were there at 8:00 a.m. in the morning and if there’s an event they could be there until midnight or 1:00 a.m. in the morning.

Steve Chatterton advised what we could do is designate that area, official vehicle parking, handicap parking and visitor parking. Then we would only ticket the visitor parking area at the request of Holt Arena. It was stated we would have to make people aware this would be mainly visitor parking in the North Loop.

John stated Howard Gauthier, the Executive Director of the Bengal Foundation, an Marva Grigora, his secretary, have times when they need to go to lower campus. He said he would let them know that unless they have an official business pass, they will need to park over in the free area.

Nora Gotfredson made the motion that we make the North Loop at Holt Arena into a visitors, official business, and handicap only parking area. Missy McElprang 2nded the motion.

Deb Pein wanted to add that all faculty and staff need to abide by the parking regulations established by the Parking Board, we should not be making any exceptions.

Terrilee Hancock also wanted it noted that Official Business Passes could not be used in lieu of purchasing a parking permit, or to park where you work. They are solely for the purpose of being able to go to other parts campus and do business there. John said he appreciated that. He said the thing that gets to be a problem is when they have events, and they have events during the day, it makes it real difficult when they have to get in and out. For example, when the high school football play offs were being held last week during the day, and people were in and out of there all the time. Without an Official Business Pass you might be parking clear out by the road. Nora Gotrfedson stated that happens all over campus. At Applied Tech it happens all the time. It’s an ongoing problem.

The motion passed to make the North Loop visitor, official business, and disabled parking only.

New Business

I. New Speed Limit On Bartz Way

Steve Chatterton stated there were several things occurring on Bartz Way. The new LDS Stake House being built, and within the next 2 to 3 years the new Performing Arts Center will be built up there. That’s a 300 vehicle parking lot that will go in up there. Our officers have been watching Bartz Way and Redill Road quite a bit. We anticipated we would have problems with speeding on that roadway. The speed limit on Bartz Way is 25 mph. If you’re at the top of Bartz Way, you take your foot of the gas and coast, by the time you hit the curb by the ball park, you can be doing 35 mph. As soon as you get past that you can be doing 40 mph, if you don’t brake.

Our officers are writing a lot of speeding tickets up there. Most of them are warnings. We’ve been doing that for over 6 months. Those who are in flagrant violation, or have been caught and received a warning in the past, are getting a ticket. It drops right off to a 15 mph hour zone once you go into the parking lot. All of the roads through campus; MLK, Terry, 8th St., all those roads are 25 mph on campus.

Steve’s concern is when we stop writing warnings and start giving our tickets, we’re going to get more hassle from the students, because their the ones speeding down the hill. We’re also getting a lot of people running the stop signs at Redhill and on Bartz Way.

Steve wanted to make the Parking Advisory Board aware of this problem and discuss whether or not the Board feels we should still enforce the 25 mph speed limit, or whether we should increase the speed limit on the roadway. Right now we only have 1 category on our tickets, and that’s called a moving violation. It covers everything other than parking, and it’s a $25.00 fine. If they come in within 3 days, it’s ½ price. Steve wanted to discuss the fine schedule for speeding, and find out if the Board has an objection to us enforcing the 25 mph speed limit on Bartz Way.

Nora wanted to know if that road came by the apartments. Steve stated the whole road is 25 mph, but where we’re getting most of the speeding violations is on the other side. Deb Pein wanted to know what was up there at this time, besides the apartments. Steve showed the Board where the apartments were, and stated we didn’t have much trouble with speed along that way. He showed them where the stake center was and where the performing arts would be built. He showed them where the officers were getting most of the speeders (near the baseball diamond, and the curve there). Most of them are doing 35 mph, and then they hit the parking lot, which is only 15 mph.

Steve made the suggestion that we could talk about leaving it 25 mph on Bartz and all the way down through the roadway, instead of changing it to a 15 mph zone through the parking lot. This roadway is the one that goes right by Reed Gym. The Board Members protested that this lot area was very busy. Steve stated he anticipated we would have problems with people over issues of traffic control, and he wanted to discuss it with the Board, and get their support.

Nora Gotfredson stated if you change it to 35 mph, which she’s against, then when those buildings get up there, you’re going to have to move it back again. That could be more confusing. Deb Pein said we should get people in the habit of driving slow in that area right now. Ms. Pein stated maybe we should publish something in News & Notes or the Bengal saying that this is occurring, and please be aware that this is a 25 mph speed zone, and make them aware they will be ticketed. Deb thought maybe warning would be a good idea. Steve said we’ve been doing that for about 2 year now. He said we could publish that information in the Bengal and News & Notes every year, if need be. Nora asked if there were speed limits signs. Steve stated there were plenty of signs.

The Parking Advisory Board concurred that we would now start giving citations for speeding up at Bartz Way and Redhill Road, instead of warnings. They further concurred that the $25.00 citation amount was fair, especially since they could get ½ price if paid within 3 working days.

We will put information on this in the News & Notes and the Bengal, and that we have the back of the Board on this issue.

II Making R02 Meters For Visitors Only

Steve Chatterton explained that we were experiencing a lot of student employees, and full-time and part-time employees who work in the Administration Building are using those parking meters and feeding them every 2 hours. Terrilee Hancock stated the reason they were not made visitor meters, was because student employees, and full-time employees stopped there to pick up their pay checks. They wanted to have some short term parking for those people. The problem we’re having is that these people can’t even park there, because employees are parking there.

Missy asked how we would implement this. Steve said we would put up visitor meters only signs, that we have on campus. This would then allow us to ticket them. Right now they are receiving only $4.00 tickets. With the signs, they would receive a $10.00 Restricted/Visitor Lot ticket.

Deb Pein asked if these people were doing this in lieu of purchasing a C Lot Permit? We stated this was true. Carol Prescott stated some of them would buy permits, but still park there because it was closer. It was also stated that people who work in Admin. will use their Official Business Passes to park there.

Nora Gotfredson made the motion to make R02 meters visitor parking only. Jeff Evans 2nded the motion. The motion passed. It was asked that we give warning tickets for a short period of time to get people used to the fact that they are visitor meters. It was also stated this should be posted in News & Notes and the Bengal with the backing of the Parking Board.

III Traffic on MLK & Memorial

Nora Gotfredson stated the traffic on MLK and Memorial was getting very bad. If you are at Holt and you are trying to make a left on to memorial, it takes quite awhile, because of traffic. Her main concern was vehicles coming off Carter on to Memorial. Some people aren’t yielding, and it’s getting kind of dangerous. Then there’s the entrance to R08 lot there. It was thought maybe we should have that blocked, so no traffic could go that way. Steve said since it was city streets, he would take this issue up with the City Engineers, and see what they said.

IV Bikes On Campus

Steve Chatterton said President Bowen has apparently received some complaints about bike riders on campus. Some drive too fast through campus, and on the sidewalks. An employee was almost run over by a bicyclist. Some do not give a warning to pedestrians that they are coming. President Bowen asked Steve to have the Parking Board come up with some recommendations.

Some suggestions from the Board were:

All Board Members agreed to take this issue to the various groups and get some feedback on this issue. They will all come back to the next meeting with some other ideas.

Missy McElprang asked Steve about bikes along steps at Owen. Steve said Scott Campbell was supposed to be moving bike racks and putting them out in front of the building.

Meeting was adjourned.

Agenda

Parking Board Meeting
Wednesday, December 9, 1998 @ 3:00 p.m.
Public Safety Conference Room

Old Business

I Parking In North Loop At Holt Arena.

II New Speed Limit On Bartz Way.

III Making R02 Meters Visitor Meters Only.

IV Traffic On MLK & Memorial.

V Regulating Bikes On Campus.

VI Parking For Residents on S. 9th.

New Business

No new business at the time this Agenda was completed.

Parking Board Meeting

Wednesday, December 9, 1998

Members Present at the Meeting

Deb Pein, Chairperson & Applied Tech Faculty Member
Scott Jepsen, COPE Member
Jeff Evans, CEC Member
Lin Sherman, Academic Faculty Member
Missy McElprang, Academic Student Member
Erwin Swetnam, Academic Student Member

Non-Members Present at Meeting

Stephen Chatterton, Director Public Safety
Terrilee Hancock, Parking/Security Supervisor
Carol Prescott, Public Safety (taking minutes)
Rich Ropicky, Visitor

The meeting was called to order at 3:15 p.m.

The members present discussed the absence of some of the student members, who have not showed up for a meeting since school started. There was a problem with sending out info to them at the first of the year, but this has been corrected. Carol Prescott will correspond with Missy on this issue.

It was decided to let Rich Ropicky speak on New Business Issue Number 3 - Parking for ISU Service Vehicles, first.

Rich Ropicky from M&O stated one of his employees parked in a disabled space at Reed Gym, because he could not find another place to park, all the official business spaces were taken up. He spoke to his people about not parking in the disabled parking. He had one of our security people cite this guy for parking in the disabled, but make it a warning.

Rich stated he was upset because there were 3 or 4 handicap spaces there by the door at Reed Gym, none of them being used, and when him and his people go to service the building, they can’t find a parking space. He felt anyone who had an Official Business Pass can park in those official parking spaces, and use the gym.

Mr. Ropicky suggested we put some signs up giving him and his people 2 spaces at certain designated locations that would say “ISU Maintenance & Service Vehicles Only”, not Official Parking. He stated they had the same situation at the Student Union Building. He stated he has to go all over campus, coming and going, and when he gets to Reed Gym he ends up parking up by the Education Bldg. and walking down to the gym. Rich stated other employees go in there for 1 to1-1/2 hours, they’ll swim laps, play tennis, and they’ll park in an Official Parking space. Then him and his people, come to the gym and have material and supplies to haul into the building, or they have work in the building. They have to have the service vehicles there because of the equipment, etc. they need to carry into the building.

Rich stated he had been on 8 or 10 campuses in the intermountain west and a couple back in Wisconsin. He has never been on a campus, except this one, that does not have maintenance and service vehicle parking.

Deb Pein asked if he had suggestions on where he would like these spaces. Rich stated there were certain designated areas. Reed Gym was one. Gravely Hall was another. He thought they might not have as big a problem at Gravely once Family Medicine moved. He said he’d like to have on the south end, where the handicap space is, 2 designated spaces down there (at Gravely). Terrilee Hancock says it’s been a problem for a long time, but it’s gotten worse in the last few years. She stated the Official Business spaces at Reed Gym are being abused. People will park there and use the gym, but not be on official business (using their Official Business Passes). Then we have to send an officer up and locate them, and have them move so the M&O people can get in. We’ve even helped them by barricading spaces so they can use those. Rich stated he thought some of the employees were even using OFB passes & spaces to go to classes at the gym.

Rich said he may have 10-15 people on remodel jobs, and they try to double up on vehicles as much as possible. He only wants 2 spaces, when they have really big projects he calls Steve or Terrilee and has them barricades some spaces. Scott Jepsen asked Rich what his want list was. Rich said he would get back with the Committee with a complete list. The only areas he would like to see taken care right away are behind Gravely by 8th St. (2 spaces), and Reed Gym (2 spaces). He wants the signs to specifically say “ISU Service and Maintenance Vehicles Only.”

Erwin Swetnam wondered if we had too many OFB spaces and who could park in them. It was stated that we did not really have too many, it was just a question of how they were being used. All departments have Official Business Passes and most departments keep control of them. Scott Jepsen really had a problem with the issue that people were using them to go to the gym, and felt they should have their passes taken away. Rich Ropicky wondered how you would tell that to Buddy Frazier. Scott said take it to their Department heads, bosses, etc. Terrilee explained that we are starting to hold the Departments responsible for the use and abuse of OFB passes. However, Buddy is the head of his department, and he’s a different story altogether.

Rich said he just found out the maintenance vehicles could park in meter spaces without getting ticketed. Terrilee did state that restricted visitor lots were off limits to maintenance vehicles (i.e. C1V, Museum, etc.).

It was decided that Rich would make up a list of the lots he wants these spaces in, and bring it back to the Committee.

Old Business

I. Parking In North Loop at Holt Arena - Waiting for approval.

II. New Speed Limit on Bartz Way - Waiting for approval. Put in News & Notes.

III. Make R02 Meters Visitor Meters Only - Waiting for approval. Put in News & Notes.

IV Traffic on MLK & Memorial - Steve presented it to the City. He is waiting for them to get back to him on this issue.

V. Regulating Bikes On Campus

Deb Pein received some e-mails from faculty and staff on this issue. She was thinking maybe we could possibly set up a subcommittee to help resolve this, because there were a lot of ideas out there. It would be made up of faculty, staff and students. The main concern is regulating bikes on campus, not issuing permits. We want people to be aware of what the Idaho Code is. Idaho Code states you are supposed to have a bell or make some kind of audible noise to let people know you’re coming. This is one of the biggest problems. Bike paths may not be the answer. Another idea was to limit the hours when bikes could be ridden on campus, or restrict areas where they can ride them.

Missy suggested we have a Bicycle Safety Week. Maybe have something during the noon hour in the SUB, have some posters, hand out water bottles, make people aware, etc. Terrilee stated one of the things Public Safety now does is go to Housing Units at the beginning of the school year and do presentations. They will schedule bike rides with anyone who wants to go around campus. It was decided something be set up for spring, and be coordinated with Jim Bingham, Public Safety Officer.

Terrilee said she would speak to Steve about setting up a permanent or subcommittee on bicycle safety, and setting up a Bicycle Safety Week. Then we can finalize the details at the next Parking Board Meeting.

VI Parking For Residents on S. 9th

Owner will make parking in back and we will allow access through our parking lots.

New Business

I. Ticketing For Disabled Parking.

A copy of an e-mail message on this issue was distributed to all members present (copy attached). It was regarding ticketing of vehicles illegally parked in disabled spaces. Public Safety generally responds to calls for ticketing these spaces, but if the officer is on another call, he may be delayed in responding. Coming down to the office and filling out a voluntary statement is also another way to deal with the situation. We can then issue the ticket to the person based on the statement.

Terrilee was asked by Steve to present the idea of volunteer ticket writers for the disabled spaces on campus. Apparently this is being done by citizens in certain cities. Steve was wondering if we wanted to try that type of program on campus. Terrilee has been asked in the past by individuals who wanted to do write tickets on a volunteer basis, but she has not wanted to do this. However, maybe a group of volunteers would work. Deb Pein stated we would have to have some type of control, or there would be a potential for problems. Terrilee stated that the way cities do it is they have a group of volunteers.

Deb wondered if this was that big of a problem here on our campus. The fine is $43.50, which is quite large. Terrilee felt it was the least of our problems. Most people will park anywhere else rather than take up a disabled space. Steve Daley, feels our response time is too slow, and Terrilee agreed. However, that could be because they are on another call, and can not respond right away. Terrilee stated Mr. Daley would like to have a ticket book so he can go out right then and there, and cite them, without having to wait for our officers to respond.

Terrilee said what Steve Chatterton wanted her to discuss with the Parking Advisory Board was if we wanted to have those kinds of volunteer programs on campus for ticket writers. Suggestions were made to better mark the spaces, or monitor the ones where the main problems seem to be occurring. It was suggested we talk to Robert Campbell to see if he thinks this is that big of a problem, and ask him if there is a need for this kind of a volunteer program on campus. The Board did not like the idea of giving a ticket book to one individual. They could see a potential for problems with an over zealous ticket writer.

Missy brought up a problem of sidewalk curbs with ramps for wheelchairs. A friend of hers stated there were some places where they did not have this available. It was suggested she contact Robert Campbell, he is the head of the ADA committee and may be able to help resolve this problem.

II Parking for ISU Credit Union’s Repossessed Cars.

Public Safety received a complaint that the Credit Union was taking up general parking spaces with their repossessed vehicles. It turned out to be only 1-2 vehicles at a time. They have customer spaces, but they do not want to use them for the repossessed vehicles. We would like to request that they buy a general hang tag, and they can display it in the repossessed vehicle. The Board recommended we have them buy 1-2 general lot permits to be used for repossessed cars only.

III Parking Spaces For Service Vehicles - This is discussed in the first few paragraphs of the minutes.

Missy McElprang had one more issue that she got an e-mail on regarding selling permits for students with only 1-2 classes per week, say on a pro-rated basis. Most Board Members felt this might cause more problems than it would solve. Public Safety does have general lot day permits for $1.00 and they have monthly permits at $8.00 per month. It was also noted that if they are going 2 times a week, it is probably less expensive to buy a semester permit for $25.00.

Scott Jepsen had some more questions regarding Official Business Passes. He wanted to know how long they were issued for. We do them every August, and we change the colors each year. Some Departments require you to sign out for them. Carol Prescott stated she sent them to the Director of a department or his secretary, and then it’s up to them how they issue them. Some Departments keep tight control on them. Some just distribute them to certain people to keep, and don’t keep track of them. Jeff Evans suggested we keep an eye on those that are being abused, and then confiscate the pass if it is found they are abusing the use of the OFB pass.

Meeting was adjourned.

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